16 Ancestral Lines

Good Afternoon,

I thought you may like a visual presentation of the 16 Anderson Ancestral Lines. As we know, it is a work in progress.

I have used the individual's state of birth on record. A "?", question mark, represents a current unknown.

Enjoy,

Jim Click here to continue reading...

August 28, 2009 - GG-Grandfather Talbot Turner and The Civil War - Part 2

Good Afternoon,

So that we can visualize the relationship of great-great-grandfather Talbot Turner in perspective with his immediate family I have created a Descendant Chart. As always the information on the Descendant Chart can and may change depending on the source and reliability of the data. As you can see there are some identified boxes in the Chart that are highlighted. (On my PC they are a light tan bordering on a dull yellow. Based on your video card and your monitor capabilities the color may be some what different.) The highlighted boxes represent the immediate blood line of the owner.



Following up from Part 1, in conjunction with the two previously found Pension Index Cards from Footnote.com and The National Archives, I discovered the following dated "1891 Sep. 28":

and the following dated "1904 or 1914 Jan 7":


These also are from The National Archives extracted from the Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934; T288; (Reference Roll 482: Turner, Leander--Tyas, Jonathan). This collection only holds the names of Union veterans as the pension files were for federal benefits. The application and certificate numbers are for the pension case file housed at The National Archives and Records Administration in Washington, D.C.

In the case of great-great-grandfather Talbot Turner and his widow, great-great-grandmother Susan J. Turner the application numbers (transcribed) are "1060326" and "797538", respectively. The certificate numbers are "752454" and "572270", respectively.

Registration is required to submit a Reference Request or Order Reproductions online. The Pension Application Files may provide a wealth of information as outlined in the linked description.

Compiled by Mr. Bennie J. McRae, Jr., I discovered the following site: U.S. Colored Infantry Regiments, which provides the Organization, Location and Original Designation. The information provided for your great-great-grandfather Talbot's regiments was:

1. Organization: 65th U.S. Colored Infantry; Location: Benton Barracks, Missouri; Original Designation: 2nd Missouri Colored Infantry; and

2. Organization: 67th U.S. Colored Infantry; Location: Benton Barracks, Missouri; Original Designation: 3rd Missouri Colored Infantry.

Enjoy... To be continued,

Jim

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August 27, 2009 - Fantastic Note and Great-Great-Grandfather Talbot Turner - Part 1

Morning,

What an exciting discovery that was made with the small piece of paper with your grandmother Ora Louisa (née Lewis) Anderson's writing -


Transcribing the note:

Front -

67th Regiment
Talbot Turner
Sergeant, Company "A"
of the 67th Regiment of
U.S. Ifantry Corps

1864 was made Sergeant

J.B. Nickerson
Adjutant of the regiment

A.J. Edjerton
Colonel
Commander of the Regiment
Discharged 1865
Glasgow, Mo.

Back -

Grandpa Turner
My mother's
father

And then the wheel's started turning.

So many wheels and cogs that I thought that this search could expand over a series of Blog postings.

First hit from Footnote.com - Civil War and Later Veterans Pension Index contributed by The National Archives.


The 1891 Sept. 28 card provides an additional bit of information to grandmother Ora Louisa's note. The card notes "Co. F, 65 Reg't US. C. Inf." in addition to the "A. 67 US. C-Inf."

The next successful hit -

It's two years earlier: 1889 Sept. 28, and the Company information "Co. A, 67 Reg't US. C. Inf." and Additional Services "F 65, US. C Inf" is reversed as compared to the 1891 card.

My immediate question refers to both cards. On both cards "Late rank" is entered as "P". What does the "P" rank represent? Obviously my first thought is "Private"... and of course this is not in line of thought with the great-great-grandfather Talbot's rank of "Sergeant" as noted by your grandmother.

Finding relevant data at Ancestry.com, which in turn is corresponding to the information included in the African Civil War Memorial, the Rank highlighted for great-great-grandfather Talbot Turner is "Sergeant". So the question is what does the "Late rank P" stand for on the 1889 and 1891 cards?

To be continued,

Enjoy.

Jim

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July 1, 2009 - Was There A Jeanette Lewis?

Evening,

I entered the name Jeanette Eley Lewis from the Descendant Chart that had been created from family files and was provided to me. The offspring of Ben 1856-1932 and Sarah (Sarah) Turner 1861-31 on the chart as entered are: Ora 1-8-90-9/70, O’Dell, Mildred, John, Jeanette Eley, Sadie, Ila, and Jewelle. I have inserted a copy of the same.

The logic of her death entered from a “Highly reliable” source is taken from the fact that she does not appear as a part of the list of house members on the 1900 US Census for Troy Township, Monroe, Iowa dated the 20th June 1900. The 1900 Census lists all the household including: Ben, Sallie, Udel T., Mildred J., Ora L., John E., Jewell E., Sada N., and Ila. There is no indication of a Jeanette Eley as indicated on the Chart.

When I first compared the two documents; the 1900 US Census and the Descendant Chart I noticed that Jeanette Eley only appears on the Chart, whereas Jewell E. appears on both. This means that there are three possibilities that I can think of:

1. Jeanette Eley may have passed away at some time before the 1900 Census was recorded,
2. Jeanette Eley was staying at someone else’s house at the time that the Census was taken, or
3. Jeanette Eley and Jewell E. are the same person, and the information on the Descendant Chart is less reliable.

At this point in time I decided to enter both names, Jeanette Eley and Jewell E. to your database. I decided to go with the first point that Jeanette Eley had passed away. My reasoning:

1. The birth years of all the other children who are included in the Census range between 1886 and 1899 which would indicate that unless she, Jeanette Eley, was older than Udel T. and it could mean that she had possibly left the family and could be recorded elsewhere or
2. There are some “conception possibilities” between the birth years of the children that she had been born and passed away at an early age.

The source, the Census is what is “Highly reliable”, definitely not my logic nor the Descendant Chart. And of course the 1890 US Censuses were destroyed by fire in St. Louis so at this point there is not any other documentary proof immediately accessible.

I hope this makes sense. It does not mean that it is fixed in stone and of course can change at any point.

Jim

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