August 28, 2009 - GG-Grandfather Talbot Turner and The Civil War - Part 2

Good Afternoon,

So that we can visualize the relationship of great-great-grandfather Talbot Turner in perspective with his immediate family I have created a Descendant Chart. As always the information on the Descendant Chart can and may change depending on the source and reliability of the data. As you can see there are some identified boxes in the Chart that are highlighted. (On my PC they are a light tan bordering on a dull yellow. Based on your video card and your monitor capabilities the color may be some what different.) The highlighted boxes represent the immediate blood line of the owner.



Following up from Part 1, in conjunction with the two previously found Pension Index Cards from Footnote.com and The National Archives, I discovered the following dated "1891 Sep. 28":

and the following dated "1904 or 1914 Jan 7":


These also are from The National Archives extracted from the Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934; T288; (Reference Roll 482: Turner, Leander--Tyas, Jonathan). This collection only holds the names of Union veterans as the pension files were for federal benefits. The application and certificate numbers are for the pension case file housed at The National Archives and Records Administration in Washington, D.C.

In the case of great-great-grandfather Talbot Turner and his widow, great-great-grandmother Susan J. Turner the application numbers (transcribed) are "1060326" and "797538", respectively. The certificate numbers are "752454" and "572270", respectively.

Registration is required to submit a Reference Request or Order Reproductions online. The Pension Application Files may provide a wealth of information as outlined in the linked description.

Compiled by Mr. Bennie J. McRae, Jr., I discovered the following site: U.S. Colored Infantry Regiments, which provides the Organization, Location and Original Designation. The information provided for your great-great-grandfather Talbot's regiments was:

1. Organization: 65th U.S. Colored Infantry; Location: Benton Barracks, Missouri; Original Designation: 2nd Missouri Colored Infantry; and

2. Organization: 67th U.S. Colored Infantry; Location: Benton Barracks, Missouri; Original Designation: 3rd Missouri Colored Infantry.

Enjoy... To be continued,

Jim

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August 27, 2009 - Fantastic Note and Great-Great-Grandfather Talbot Turner - Part 1

Morning,

What an exciting discovery that was made with the small piece of paper with your grandmother Ora Louisa (née Lewis) Anderson's writing -


Transcribing the note:

Front -

67th Regiment
Talbot Turner
Sergeant, Company "A"
of the 67th Regiment of
U.S. Ifantry Corps

1864 was made Sergeant

J.B. Nickerson
Adjutant of the regiment

A.J. Edjerton
Colonel
Commander of the Regiment
Discharged 1865
Glasgow, Mo.

Back -

Grandpa Turner
My mother's
father

And then the wheel's started turning.

So many wheels and cogs that I thought that this search could expand over a series of Blog postings.

First hit from Footnote.com - Civil War and Later Veterans Pension Index contributed by The National Archives.


The 1891 Sept. 28 card provides an additional bit of information to grandmother Ora Louisa's note. The card notes "Co. F, 65 Reg't US. C. Inf." in addition to the "A. 67 US. C-Inf."

The next successful hit -

It's two years earlier: 1889 Sept. 28, and the Company information "Co. A, 67 Reg't US. C. Inf." and Additional Services "F 65, US. C Inf" is reversed as compared to the 1891 card.

My immediate question refers to both cards. On both cards "Late rank" is entered as "P". What does the "P" rank represent? Obviously my first thought is "Private"... and of course this is not in line of thought with the great-great-grandfather Talbot's rank of "Sergeant" as noted by your grandmother.

Finding relevant data at Ancestry.com, which in turn is corresponding to the information included in the African Civil War Memorial, the Rank highlighted for great-great-grandfather Talbot Turner is "Sergeant". So the question is what does the "Late rank P" stand for on the 1889 and 1891 cards?

To be continued,

Enjoy.

Jim

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